Here is a rather illustrative thread. Sassie, a
Scientologist, proposes that a more positive spirit be manifest on Christmas
Day. Watch the hysteria this rather innocent proposal produces among
critics.
Original message from Sassie (CoS
member)
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
There were many who observed this last year. I am proposing
another truce for Christmas Day this year.
Happy Holidays,
Sassie
On Tue, 17 Dec 1996 23:44:02 -0500, Bev <dbj1120@iag.net> wrote:
>Hi all!! I'm going to be having some company and doing many things for the next week or so and so most likely will not be on the NG.
>I would, however, like to take this time to wish everybody a very Merry Christmas (Ho-Ho-Ho). You know what they say, be good, but if you can't be good . . . don't get caught!!
>Beverly :)
In keeping with Bev's Holiday
wishes I would like to extend aproposal to everyone who posts here.
Could we have a Christmas Day
truce on ars? Part of the
observance of the holiday is the occasion to spend time with
family and friends. I'm sure everyone one us has someone
who would value our companionship for that day.
Seasons Greetings,
Sassie
You people are sick.
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
> Part of the observance of the holiday is the occasion to spend time with family and friends. I'm sure everyone one us has someone who would value our companionship for that day.
>Seasons Greetings,
>Sassie
Hypocrite.
10:45PM Thur night, 12/19. 7 vehicles at the big org, 1 at the little
org. Next Wed, 12/24, Christmas Eve, 10:45 at night, both orgs will
be open again. Thursday, 12/25, Christmas Day, both orgs will open
and close at regular business hours.
Luck you, you get to spend time with family and friends. Staff
members nation wide *must* come in for another day of business.
So what is going to happen Christmas Eve, and Christmas day between
8pm and 11pm? Why are these orgs open? They might sell a book? Is
that it?
Scientology is compatible with Christianity. Or so it is claimed
.
This year, more than any other, scientology will be noticed.
Did you ever think to shut the orgs down on the one big Christian
Holiday that comes each year? Just shut them down. Perhaps fool the
Christian Wogs. Perhaps make them think... something???
But no, Christmas Eve and Christmas Day it will be business as usual
for a scientology org. Because scientology, except for the hypocrisy
of some hidden people, does not honor Christmas.
There are Stats and there is GI. And no silly holiday will interrupt
that. <sigh>
If possible I'll do a vehicle count Christmas Eve.
Or maybe I'll give them a call and ask if now is a good time to come
in and purchase a Comm Course.
Sassie, no truce will stop news stories on Lisa from coming through.
PS. 10:45pm the little org is *still* open for business in a poor and
dangerous neighborhood. The only other two stores open anywhere near
the CC are a 7-11 and a Liquor Store. They are both a block away.
Nothing else is open. It really is quite sad.
I'd love to know the Stat for merchandise sold between 10-11pm at
night. You people are sick.
--
Ted Mayett OT 1.1
Fuckin' aye
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
In article
<349a2b8f.4275757@snews.zippo.com>,
Ted Mayett (KoX) <teddy@skylink.net> wrote:
>On 19 Dec 1997 07:30:35 GMT,
sassie10@aol.com (Sassie10) wrote:
>> Part of the observance of the holiday is the occasion to spend time with family and friends. I'm sure everyone one us has someone who would value our companionship for that day.
>>Seasons Greetings,
>>Sassie
Tell it to the people who won't be able to see their
own grandchildren
because the middle generation was ordered by the vicious criminal cult
of Scientology to "disconnect."
Show me evidence that the vicious criminal cult of Scientology is
allowing
"Christmas truces" under its "disconnect orders."
>Hypocrite.
Fuckin' aye.
I Might just use Christmas time to show a few
relatives critical web sites
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
>There were many who observed this last year. I am proposing another truce for Christmas Day this year.
Name one. I don't remember any 'truce' during last
years' solstice, or the
one before. Deja News shows 179 articles in ARS dated 25 December 1996. Most
of the usual suspects posted.
If things got quiet during the holidays it was because it was the
holidays.
I doubt I'll be on the net on December 25, but that's because I'll be
spending time with my family, and most likely pissed (that's drunk for the
English-challenged). Then again, I might just take the opportunity to
introduce a few relatives to my hobby and show them around a few web sites.
A permanent Internet connection is a Wonderful Thing.
Count me out
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
Count me out. There are too many people, including
Lisa McPherson, who are
not around to celebrate Christmas because of $cientology.
No cease fire until they stop hurting people, no cease fire until they
renounce their psuedo medical claims.
No cease fire as long as they have the "Isolation Run-Down."
The Exile
Will Scientology not let anyone die until the New Year?
>Could we have a Christmas Day
truce on ars? Part of the observance of the holiday is the occasion to spend time with family and friends. I'm sure everyone one us has someone who would value our companionship for that day.
I'll cut ya a deal. Your part of the truce will be not
to
log on and read ARS, thus saving yourself the tress on
'christmas' day (a meaningless holiday to Scientology),
and my part of the truce will be to provide a lot of
postings that you won't have to read. Happy?
Crap.Schlack! Pfff...
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
> After all, the Orgs don't close
their doors on Christmas; They don't stop disseminating and poisoning the minds of vulnerable people
on Christmas --- and certainly the courserooms aren't closed, because, after
all, the student points would suffer, and the birthday game would show crashed stats.
True! truce is no word in use by scienos. Christmas
neither. Peace never. Happiness
and gifts still lesser. Love ? we know that does not exist (as Hubbard said,
once
an impotent old boy, sex is restim from psychs).What does remain then?
WAR.
HATE.
ATTACKS.
MONEY.
POWER.
and all this comes from the ill-minded old elwrong, the same one who said that
the
uppermost motivation was DUTY, and the lowerest one was MONEY.
Crap.Schlack! Pfff... now the ballon is deflating. Pfff.
Roger
They'll be walking toward us with weapons
carefully concealed
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
In article
<19971219073000.CAA22293@ladder01.news.aol.com>, sassie10@aol.com
(Sassie10) writes:
>There were many who observed this last year. I am
proposing another truce for Christmas Day this year.
Fellow Christians can have and have had truces on
Christmas Day. This is
because they see in each other a commonality, and can throw away any political
or idealogical differences for that one day because of the commonality.
Scientologists, however, by order of policy by L. Ron Hubbard, cannot
feel that
commonality for their "avowed and knowing enemies", real or imagined.
As a
matter of fact, it anyone is declared "suppressive" by the
organization, the
*ONLY* person he/she is allowed to communicate with in Scientology, is the
person holding the post of International Justice Chief in Clearwater, Florida.
Scientologists *should* be able to feel that commonality with _all_
people:
suppressives, wogs, scientologists -- everybody; if they were following their
policy of the Eight Dynamics. But they would prefer to separate from the rest
of society by continuing the practices of attacking and suing critics,
declaring people, RPF'ing Staff members, liability formulas, etc.; which
*violate* the basic principles upon which all of Scientology was based, such as
the Overt/Motivator Sequence, Eight Dynamics and ARC Triangle.
For this reason, a truce with Scientology would be a one sided truce:
as we
walk across the field of battle to shake hands with them, they'll be walking
toward us from their side with weapons carefully concealed, waiting for the
perfect moment to rid the world of what they consider to be the lowest forms
inhabiting it: the SP's.
No Truce!
NoGoot!
We'll call a truce on XEMUMAS if they'll truce on
CHRISTMAS
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
In the $cientology version of the Christmas story, Joseph and Mary
and all the
others were not sent to Bethlem to be taxed, rather XEMU called them into to be
taxed and then shot them up with glygol and transported them to Teegachi.
Now I say, find out what on what day XEMU was born, was he in
waddling clothes
or a space suit, did any wise men show up bearing gifts, which, if any,
galatic star was shining brightly and so forth. Armed with this data I say we
make a proposal to the $cios. We'll call a truce on XEMUMAS if they'll truce
on CHRISTMAS.
Wes Fager
Even I'm not that stupid
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
Oh, please, people!!! SCIENTOLOGY DOES NOT WANT A
TRUCE. Their very integrity
is at stake again because of the pending announcement in the McPherson case,
they
fear what Wollersheim & his attorneys are going to do, they respond to
philanthropists
by killing pets and dumping them on doorsteps. And you seriously think they are
offering
you the peace pipe? Even I'm not that stupid.
If things can calm down for them
they can re-group
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
From: anonymous@anonymous.net (Anonymous)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Why do the Scienos want a Christmas truce?
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:31:41 GMT
Message-ID: <349a9241.2579839@news.shore.net>
Because the shit has really hit the fan...if things
can calm down for
them for even a few days they can re-group. I have always been a big
fan of Christmas and feel that it should be re-named to be something
non-demoninational and just have one day a year that is dedicated to
"peace and goodwill towards men" (okay so im only half-feartedly
poloticially correct...peace and goodwill to all?). But the fact of
the matter is that the fight against Scientology doesn't go against
this concept...when Scientology promises to release people from the
RPF and promises to let those people go who wish to leave, and when
they promise to stop harrassing critics and other organizations and
when they stop subjugating those within their religion, then we will
haev taken a step (a small one granted) toward "peace and goowill"
Until that time comes I'm not going to stop posting the truth about
this vile organization.
Their only chance is to appeal to ARS
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
From: inducto@aol.com (Inducto)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Why do the Scienos want a Christmas truce?
Date: 19 Dec 1997 18:23:35 GMT
Message-ID: <19971219182301.NAA26233@ladder01.news.aol.com>
Maybe because the average staffer wants christmas off,
and they know management
will make them work christmas if there are SPs to fight, so their only chance
for some seasonal compassion and enjoyment is to appeal to a.r.s.
Sad if its true.
I.
Like the Nazis they have used
Christmas to launch their counter attacks
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
"Things are going very bad for Scientology around the world
particularly
in the US. The faint smell of real panic of a ship going down is
showing up more and more both in critical US litigation and in their new
media relations.
Income is down. New people are leaving faster as they find out what's
going on and as they hear more about Scientology's real nature and
history. Recruiting and promotion is getting tougher every day. Every
effort they make is almost immediately countered.
The future looks like it is only going to get a lot worse and stay
that
way, but this is exactly the time you can expect Scientology to initiate
a massive counter attack and counter PR attack. Policy absolutely
demands it!
Much like the failed strategy of the Nazis in the battle of the
bulge,
over history they have traditionally used the Christmas holidays to
finalize and or launch their silly counter attacks because some "Big
Being in the Blue Barn thinks the rest of us are relaxing with our
holiday parties.
What I suspect is coming as the "new" counter attack is
some type of
massive reworking of the Conspiracy - RICO or religious persecution
type lawsuits against Scientology adversaries with the appropriate PR
fantasy machine revved up to full speed to match the wild rhetoric of
the new suits. They have already been betraying their panic by dropping
the wildest rhetoric in court I have seen in 17 years.
Don't be fooled for a minute. They really don't expect to win these
new
conspiracy type suits. In fact, I believe they are most certainly
fabricating them with the clear intention of dropping them latter on
after they have served their real purpose, which is to have a really
big, dramatic, exciting story to yell to the world that will help
redirect and misdirect membership attention away from the sea of bad
reports that they are continually being exposed to.
They are VERY VERY worried about internal defections --- much more
than
any outside threat, and they should be. They already know that 1998 will
be leading off with some of the worst mass publicity they have EVER had
and then its rapidly going downhill from there.
I want this on the record so those of you understand mind control in
closed authoritarian environments will not yourselves be misdirected or
redirected and can properly prepare for this very predictable and
somewhat boring large scale coming counter offensive. If you are aware
of it you will be more likely to keep focused on the real objective of
accelerating the efforts at bringing the truth about Scientology
directly to the members, their families and Scientology's new recruits."
IMHO
Lawrence Wollersheim
Personally
Joe
May you rot in Hell you disgusting
low-life murdering clams
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
From: Roland <roland.rashleigh-berry@virgin.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Rot in Hell You Scumbag Clams
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 00:04:16 +0000
Message-ID: <349B0B80.20CE@virgin.net>
I've got a Christmas message to all Scientologists:
Rot in Hell You Scumbag Clams!!
Recently your scumbag OSA organisation decided to intimidate
a critic called Bob Minton by killing a neighbour's cat and
leaving it on his doorstep.
You fucking scumbags! And I use the term collectively. Just
how many of you scumbags posted to this newsgroup saying that
if something like that had happened then you did not support
it? Just how many of you said that if someone within your
organisation were killing pets then it was wrong?
Not one of you fucking scumbags said a thing.
You people are less than human. You all make me feel sick.
One of your evil bastards has gone out and killed a cat.
That could have been a beloved pet of a child in that
neighbourhood. Just what sort of Christmas will that child
have as a result of your pet murder? One of you talks about
a Christmas truce. Why? So people can reflect on your
organisations murdering cruelty? Maybe you have a pet
murder planned especially for Christmas day, aimed at
hurting children as well as pets, and you want all to be
quiet on that day so that your disgusting vicious acts
have more impact.
Disgusting lowlives. Just how many of you condemn the vicious and cruel acts of your organisation? None of
you. You sit there and smirk and think that standard
tech is being applied by OTs and you lot don't care a
fuck that childrens lives are being shattered this
Christmas by your murdering of pets.
You people disgust me. You murdering lowlife clams.
You make me sick by your cowardly support of your
organisation that performs these cruel acts. Judged
by your silence on this newsgroup you all support these
actions. This makes you, socially, the most disgusting
group on this planet.
You are all cowards. By your silence you support the
crimes of your cult. The silence here on ars is loud.
You have the choice of comdemning these crimes but
instead you are either silent or you post in support.
Disgusting lowlives. Disgusting clams. Disgusting mafia
pet-murdering scumbags. You are all vile beyond
description. Disgusting vile and cruel brainwashed
cowardly subhuman scum. May you rot in hell you
murdering scumbags.
Just what does it do to you people when you murder a
child's pet? Do you scieno guys get an erection? Are
you that sick? Do you praise the 100% standard tech that
went into it? Do you cheer for more pet killings in
order to silence critics?
You people are sub-life. You are the most disgusting
people that have ever darkened existence. May you rot in
Hell you disgusting low-life murdering clams.
[end of Christmas message to Scientologists worldwide]
Roland
If criminal indictments then we should celebrate this
joyous event with a truce on Christmas Day
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
From: Joe Harrington <joeharr@worldnet.att.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Scientology and Peace on Earth and ARS
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 14:47:02 -0500
Message-ID: <67eiha$hmu@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net>
If the DA in Florida files for criminal indictments
before 25 Dec 97, I
think we should all celebrate this joyous event and abstain from making
any posts on Christmas Day, and pray for those still held in the
spiritual bondage of the Hubbardian mindset.
Joe
Offering a truce is clear
demonstration of the natural "1.1-ness" of Scientologists
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
From: "Alec" <alec@flash.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: About the "truce"
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:17:20 -0600
Message-ID: <349af511.0@news2.lightlink.com>
Since OSA's presence here is strictly optional for
them, as hecklers, then
no "truce" is relevant. They can simply go back to where they came
from and
let us go about the business of exposing their Satanist religion. If the
purpose of a truce is to cease hostilities, one needs to consider that the
hostilities began when OSA began hostilities against this group--within this
group. If they would just refrain, that would amount to the truce they
seek. We don't go into their "churches". They should stay out of ours.
Their offer of a truce implies they are rightful, accepted
participants
here. What a move! Their presence here is purely subversive. Offering a
truce in the guise of generosity is clear demonstration of the natural
"1.1-ness" of Scientologists. With guile and deception, they hope to cover
their guile and deception.
My answer is a resounding "NO!". No slack in the war
against totalitarian
control. A truce would be our permission for them to proceed in their
planetary coup. Speaking for the future of mankind, I say, The Fuck stops
here!
---Alec
We would all do better to go about our business without responding to
their
disruptive efforts.
I'm not going to succomb to this
form of mind-control
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
From: anonymous@anonymous.net (Anonymous)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Upon further reflection regarding the proposed "truce"
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:55:38 GMT
Message-ID: <349ac1be.6742845@news.shore.net>
I have been doing a little bit of thinking regarding this
proposed "truce" They call for a cease-fire. What the hell are they talking
about. I am a critic of this organization because of the way I *think* When I
read about their policies and atrocities my mind is appalled. A "truce" implies
that there is some sort of effort on our part to injure those in Scientology.
This is not the case. We are trying to reform a *criminal* organization. Do
police stop working on Christmas? No. Why is that? Because criminals continue to
operate on Christmas. The COS will still have people in the RPF on Christmas,
They will still have people going through the purif and the introspection
rundown, they will still be charging people for salvation, The truce they are
calling for is for us as critics to stop criticizing. (I'm not sure what their
side would be...would they stop dead-agenting people?) I can not stop
criticizing this group. Fundamentally they are asking us to change the way we
think for a few days. Well, I'm not going to succomb to this form of
mind-control nor will i succomb to any other form.
I will keep spreading the word
about the criminal cult on Christmas
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
From: Jim Byrd <byrd@NOSPAM.acm.org>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Upon further reflection regarding the proposed "truce"
Date: 19 Dec 1997 11:10:54 -0800
Message-ID: <67egru$q22@sdrn.zippo.com>
The fallacy of asking for a "truce" is the
assumption that there is someone to
ask for a truce with. It assumes that opposition to the criminal cult is
centrally directed and managed, and that someone can decide questions like this
for all critics. This is simply false. All critics make their own decisions.
Some may "agree" to this, most won't. Remember the official ARSCC
slogan "We do
not exist."
You won't hear much from me on Christmas, simply because I will be
out of town
and away from the internet. But don't worry, I will keep spreading the word
about the criminal cult.
Now is the time to hit 'em HARD
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
On 19 Dec 1997 07:30:35 GMT, sassie10@aol.com (Sassie10)
wrote:
>There were many who observed this last year. I am proposing
:another truce for Christmas Day this year.
Happy Holidays,
Sassie
Now s the time to hit 'em HARD.
Christmas is downstat season. The tech of course does not allow for seasonal
dips in the statistics, so every frickin' year they hassle the org staff over
the drop in stats.
So get those Xenu leaflets out there and HAMMER THEM HARD!
Screw the truce
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
From: Kat <Kattardis@angelfire.com>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: F*** The Truce
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 17:20:57 -0500
Message-ID: <349D9649.6BB1@angelfire.com>
Absolutely.
These people don't want a 'truce' in any case--they want us all to be
SILENT. Preferably forever.
Never give the Devil a break, folks. He's not in the business of
playing
fair.
We should be kinder to the poor deluded souls caught in this mess
called
Scientology, however. I think 'screw the truce' is a bit nicer. I do
appreciate the feeling.
Kat
A transparent and pathetic ploy
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
From: mdallara@kcii.com (Mark Dallara)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: Fuck The Truce
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 03:57:37 GMT
Message-ID: <34a5e196.17919720@news.relay.co.uk>
Kat <Kattardis@angelfire.com>
wrote:
>Absolutely.
>These people don't want a 'truce' in any case--they want us all to be SILENT. Preferably forever.
>Never give the Devil a break, folks. He's not in the business of playing fair.
It was pointed out to me this evening that the concept
of a false truce is
included in Sun Tzu's "The Art of War", which is required reading for
$cientology's secret service. The idea is to make one's opponent back off
from the fight, lose intensity, and fool him into thinking that you intend
to do the same. While I have not yet attempted to find the particular
passage which documents this in the book, I find the hypothesis to be
valid, and I believe that this is the real motive behind the proposed
a.r.s "truce".
The Church of $cientology and its agents have no credibility. In
fact,
they have proven again and again that their intentions are not honorable,
and that they cannot be trusted to do what they say or to follow the
principles to which they give lip service. Those who have proposed this
truce will consider it a "win" if they cause some of the a.r.s
activists
to cease their vigilance and their participation, even for a short span.
I consider it a transparent and pathetic ploy, and I, for one, will
not
cooperate with it.
--
Mark Dallara
The Scientologists' gratuitous
offering of a Christmas truce is very hypocritical
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
I think you missed Rebecca's point. The
Scientologists' gratuitous
offering of a Christmas truce is very hypocritical, considering their
behavior during the rest of the year. This point is well taken. If you
think that their declaration of a truce means they're going to change
their behavior from now on, I wouldn't hold my breath based on their
behavior in the years past. When I was in Scientology on the Apollo
there was often a Christmas amnesty in December for anyone in ethics
trouble. In January it was all over and that was the notorious month
for "heavy ethics", which more than made up for any Christmas truce.
It
was back to business as usual. I think we all know enough by now not to
be fooled by their phoney PR tactics. This is a pattern that has been
going on with them for a very long time and based on their behavior this
past year, I see no evidence that anything has changed.
Monica Pignotti
There will be no peace until
$cientology is destroyed
Usenet post from the newsgroup alt.religion.scientology.
From: odysseus@fwbnet.com (Jeff Kazmierski)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Re: ARSCC- Under the Miseltoe
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 09:58:41 -0600
Message-ID: <odysseus-2212970958420001@du21.fwbnet.com>
In article
<19971220102001.FAA16207@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
mikesmith3@aol.com (MikeSmith3) wrote:
>Its that time of year again- Yes its
Christmas and ARSCC is getting a bit sentimental.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Graham really puts us in the Christmas spirit with his message of joy:
>Sassie 10 makes her overture-
>>>Could we have a Christmas Day truce on ars?
>>It have to be over my dead body with
rigor-mortis having set in.
>>Graham Berry
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>And Bill Barwell has sent out his little cyber Christmas card to the group:
>>I sneer at you Scientologists
>>You religion is no religion.
>>No blind bigotry here.
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Now Dave Gerard has been a busy little elf preparing gift baskets for us:
>Rev. Erlich prepares a thoughtful Christmas sermon as a response for his flock:
>>Sorry. We have all learned the lesson of
Sodom Hussein. There will be no peace on earth when such predators are allowed to continue creating havoc.
>>Uncle?
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>After watching., "Its a Wonderful Life", Roland is overcome by the Holiday mood...
>>I've got a Christmas message to all Scientologists:
>Santa tells me these boys may get coal in their stockings but to the rest of you don't wait till Christmas Eve to finish your shopping and do have a Happy Holiday.
Here's a Christmas message that may be more "Christian" and in tune
with
the times.
$cientologists, I forgive you for your sins. God will forgive you, if
you
are willing to repent. You are sinners and you will spend eternity in
hell with All Wrong Hubbub unless you cast aside the delusion of your
so-called "religion", repent and make restitution for your wrongs.
There will be no "Christmas truce." There will be no peace
until
$cientology is destroyed.
SP1
Jeff Kazmierski
Amateur Physicist, Star Wars Fan, and Skeptic
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