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David Mayo:
Thank you Bernie, whoever you are,
the following is an excellent compilation of what occurred on these
threads. You did a better job of this than I could have and I
appreciate that. I too, await the answers of either Dave Bird or
efischer to my questions which you have SO clearly laid out below.
>>>>>>>David Mayo:
>>>>>>>I do not think that I am cultishly
inclined but I would like to know of any cultish characteristic that
you have perceived in me so that I can correct it.
>>>>>Bernie:
>>>>>I would have been interested if
someone answered the questions of DM. Seems that nor ef nor you
[Dave Bird] can satisfy my curiosity here. I thought you guys were
specialists in mind control.
>>>David
Mayo:
>>>Yes, I too, would have been
interested if either efischer or Dave Bird would answer the question
instead of merely continuing their unsubstantiated assertion that my
beliefs and/or practices are harmful -- especially when they have
failed to comment on *any* of the beliefs that I have stated in this
newsgroup and have no idea what my practices are!
>>Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine
>>If you think I've drifted off track
from some original questions, perhaps you could re-state them? What
I have done is take up the challenge and opportunity in your
question "well, why SHOULD I abandon Hubbard's tech?"
(What is wrong with it that I should not continue developing it). I
have tried to say what is IMO wrong with Hubbard's tech -- I don't
know to what extent you still uphold that tech -- and if you wish me
to respond on your current beliefs different from Hubbard's tech
then please remind me what they are. I am not saying "damn you,
David Mayo, you definitely believe all the things I find fault
in"; merely finding fault in standard tech, and asking whether
you agree with those faults.
>Bernie:
>No no no Dave. The questions are straight above under
your eyes, no need of re-statement. We are *not* speaking here about
the tech or believes here, but about *cultish_behavior*. I would
like to know what cultish behavior DM displayed (because I never saw
any), and DM wants to know because he probably would like to improve
himself. But you are not helping him in this direction, you are
making accusation in such a way that he can't learn from them. So,
did you recover from your illness and can now answer the question
which is straight above here? Or maybe you did already in some other
post I didn't see.
>>>Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine:
>>>I said in my post that I was tired
and ill, and not capable of doing the matter justice in the present
article but would attempt to do so in a later one.
>>>I will send you oranges, Dave, because you probably are still
sick: you didnt answered any single question of DM here.
>>I am doing my best to address the subject of my doubts about the
tech bit by bit.
>No! no, no, no and no. The question is *not* about the tech,
it's about alledged cultish behavior displayed by David Mayo (see
above).
>>>Bernie:
>>>Well, I hope you get soon well
enough and, secondarily, address at least one of his question.
>>Dave Bird---St Hippo of Augustine
>>I can't remember what they were.
>What did DM specifically do that you can qualify as cultic
(see on top of this p/m)?
>>But I think you will agree I am addressing **the** questions on
separability of tech from its authoritarian purposes.
>Yes, kind of, but frankly I am more interested by the first
question.
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