In Scientology, homosexuality
is considered an expression of "1.1
tone", an emotional tone midway between "fear" (1.0)
and "anger" (1.5). The implication is that homosexuals prefer
anonymous and indirect contacts to more open emotional involvement and
responsibilities. The other implication is that, through Scientology
"auditing", one would gain a more "normal" sexual
Scientology, however, does not dictate strict sexual behavior
at this level, nor assigns blame for deviant behavior. The principle is
that through the heightened awareness auditing is supposed to procure,
each one will be more able to make his own decision of what he really
wants and doesn't want.
It is true, however, that the
tone of L. Ron Hubbard's writings on the subject is basically
homophobic, even if, later on, he tried to balance his own statements.
Even the implications above, that homosexuality is the result of a "low
tone", and that gays would become "normal" as they proceed with the
Scientology "therapy", may be considered as offensive to gays.
Scientology critics, however,
have taken this legitimate criticism far beyond what it deserves and
have turned it into a myth of their own, going as far as claiming
Scientology advocates gays should be
exterminated in concentration camps.
While fanatical interpretation of some of
L. Ron Hubbards's writings
in an hypothetic future Scientology-controlled society is of course
always possible, critics omit to mention subsequent writings by Hubbard that pretty much cancel these
statements. They also ignore the way this issue is actually being
tackled with in the present-day Scientology.
This is what the letters below, written by a
Scientologists in answer to a negative press article, points out.
As for anti-cultists, they
have made a living demonstration of what would be THEIR "solution" to
"deviant" behavior. In 1981, they kidnapped
a lesbian girl and subjected her to debilitating treatment for no
better reasons that her parents disapproved of her relationship and
claimed she was therefore under "mind-control". This didn't
happen in some hypothetic future society, but right here in our current
Los Angeles, CA.
November 24, 2000 - Vol. 6: 142
I'M HERE, I'M QUEER, I'M A SCIENTOLOGIST! WE'RE NOT A CULT!
Keith Relkin, a gay Scientologist from West Hollywood, responds to
Tsakuda's article in Fab! last month on the organization.
by Keith Relkin
Well it's about time someone noticed Scientology is "invading"
("Scary Scientology Saga, Fab! issue 140)!!! I just wonder why it
took so long
for you to realize WE are here!
That's right, I'm a Scientologist living in West Hollywood. I'm also
GAY, very involved in the GAY community, GAY civil rights and AIDS
in case you were interested.
In fact, there are quite a few of us happy little Scientologists here.
considering that this community is confronted by the same problems of
unhappy relationships and the stress of living which all communities are
with, Scientology is likely to continue to catch on here... because
the things Scientology addresses and has answers to.
But I just don't recognize the Scientology you describe in your
article, Patrick! Of course, you are probably more familiar with it than
am... after all, I've only worked for three Scientology organizations,
Seattle, one in Los Angeles, and I volunteer at the center in Beverly
Most of my family are Scientologists. My "ex" is a
Scientologist and a staff
member in Beverly Hills. Many of my gay friends have taken Scientology
staff courses and been greatly helped with their relationships.
By contrast, we have the "facts" cited in your article...oops!
I can't see WHY!
The "quote" you attribute to L. Ron Hubbard is from a book
that doesn't exist
and the "Cult Awareness Network" you "quote" went
bankrupt years ago from
lawsuits. (Apparently they tried to deprogram a Catholic nun and the
too happy about that. But you should also be aware that deprogramming is
used on homosexuals in the form of "aversion therapy" and
I guess anyone who doesn't agree with the maintstream is a "cult
certain parts of this country!)
The IRS ruled favorably on the religious nature of Scientology and
tax-exempt status years ago. Not sure how Fab! managed to miss that
detail" in their not-so-fab "fact checking department."
Let's face it, YOUR
story reads like science fiction.
So, just for fun, here's a REAL quote by L. Ron Hubbard, you know
an actual book he wrote (can we say "library" Patrick?).
We Scientologists read this at the beginning of every Sunday service in
Scientology organization across the world: "Nothing in Dianetics
is true for you unless you have observed it and it is true according to
observation. That is all."
On a personal note, it was Scientology that got me off drugs. It was
from a Scientology chaplain that helped me deal with coming out as a gay
how to handle that with my family and friends. It was a Scientology
Communications course that gave me many of the tools to rebuild my
family relationships, and also greatly improve my dating life! But most
Scientology has given me the opportunity to handle the effects of the
that all gay people grow up with, and to regain self-confidence and
What's more, Scientology has the most iron-clad, non-discriminatory
ever come across regarding sexual orientation. Have there been abuses of
policy by people in the church who are ignorant of it, or who were
raised in the
Midwest? (Sorry, bad joke.) Yes! Of course! I mean, what planet are you
living on? But whenever I have personally written reports on policy
to church management, my reports were acknowledged and the offenders
untimately corrected. That's more than I can say for our U.S.
record handling civil rights abuses of gays.
Fact: Approximately 60% of the population of California voted FOR the
initiative. We have alot of work to do! But just because Dr. Laura is
doesn't mean all Jews are against us. Similarly, we have many allies in
Church of Scientology, many of whom are my dear friends.
I believe that we in the gay community have a responsibility to: (1)
(2) Set a good example in what a gay is and does. It has been and
be my mission to forge stronger ties within the Church and to increase
communication and understanding about who gay people are. The Church of
Scientology of Beverly Hills is totally welcoming of the gay community,
example, and has frequently invited me to lead Sunday services there.
As to L. Ron Hubbard himself, he wrote hundreds of works over half a
the subject of mind, education, drug rehabilitation and related
you, Patrick, pick an isolated quote from 1950, you will NOT understand
Hubbard had to say about homosexuality. Remember, in 1950, the American
Psychiatric Association had homosexuality labelled as a "Mental
took the work of Frank Kameny and the Mattachine Society many years to
to change that finally in 1963. Yet, in 1967, two years before the
riots and only four years after the American Psychiatric Association
calling us mentally ill, and long before any other major church
policies of non-discrimination based on sexual orientation, L. Ron
the non-discrimination policy I referred to BELOW in bold capital
"It has never been any part of my plans to regulate or to attempt
the private lives of individuals. Whenever this has occurred, it has not
resulted in any improved condition... Therefore ALL FORMER RULES,
AND POLICIES RELATING TO THE SEXUAL ACTIVITIES OF SCIENTOLOGISTS ARE
There are several points on which Scientology and the gay community
agree: (1) Human Rights. There is zero tolerance in Scientology for any
violation of human rights and you always have recourse in the Church if
that your rights have been violated. As I've said, I've used these on
one occasion myself; (2) The committment to fight the drug problem in
communities. This is obviously not just a problem of the gay community,
pharmaceuticals are offenders as well as recreational drugs. Scientology
solutions to not only drug abuse, but to the toxic residuals which stay
body for years afterward and can cause lasting physical and mental
There are many gay Scientologists and there will doubtless be many more
future, right here in West Hollywood, because Scientology's popularlity
visibility keeps growing. This is in no small measure due to the fact
Scientology upper management has made huge efforts in recent years to
standardize all organizations so that they are uniform in their
polcicies and procedures, which means that we, in the gay community, can
the increased compliance with policies that affect us.
We're not living in the 50s or the Stonewall era. As a gay community, we
remember our past, but let's not live there. We've made incredible
it wasn't always due to our lack of skill in battle, but our diplomacy
in forging alliances. Haven't we had to do that all of our lives? Maybe,
maybe, it's time for a "reduction of hostilities."
For example, as a point of etiquette, calling someone's religion a
like yelling "faggot" out a car window while speeding down
Boulevard. It does not promote a sense of compassion or tolerance. I
that we continue to be vigilant but also set an example of the tolerance
ourselves as gay people expect, and move into a better future for all of
http://www.heal-la.org/alive.cgi?page=about&sub=thanks (link deosn't
November 24, 2000
PATRICK TSAKUDA RESPONDS TO GAY SCIENTOLOGIST KEITH RELKIN
Vicki Aznaran, one of the church's former leaders, told TIME magazine
Scientology is a "criminal organization, day in and day out. It
makes Jim and
Tammy (Bakker) look like kindergarten."
While I'm delighted that Keith has found that Scientology answers all
spiritual needs, the many accounts of those who have suffered severe
psychological abuse (and financial ruin) at the hands of this cult,
mean, church, are overwhelming.
For more information on this subject - check out the following website:
Regarding the quote from the book that doesn't exist - Hubbard wrote
bizarre books. I may have gotten the title mixed up. My bad.
However, in his book entitled "Science of Survival," L. Ron
Hubbard penned the
following little tidbit about homosexuals: "...such people should
be taken from
the society as rapidly as possible and uniformly institutionalized; for
the level of the contagion of immorality, and the destruction of
According to the
I took this quote from,
this pearl of wisdom, and many others, appears in "Science of
1, Chapter 13, page 102.
Page numbers may differ in various editions due to gradual changes being
the original works of L. Ron Hubbard.
Can we say "library" Keith?
Dec. 8, 2000 issue
LETTER TO EDITOR:
In his reply to Keith Relkin ("I'm Here! I'm Queer! I'm a
issue 142), Patrick Tsakuda quotes Vicki Aznaran, one of the church's
leaders, who told TIME magazine that: "Scientology is a criminal
day in and day out. It makes Jim and Tammy (Bakker) look like
Unfortunately for Mr. Tsakuda, Vicky Aznaran
happens to have made a 180 degree turn-about later on and retracted her
previous allegations. Her retraction, together with her explanation on
how apostates come to distort facts can be found at:
The quote Mr. Tsakuda then uses to refute Keith Relkin's argument is
"Science of Survival," a book written in 1951 - thereby
Hubbard's quote of 1967 cancelling all former rules, regulations, and
relating to the sexual activities of Scientologists, which Mr. Relkin
used as a
core of his argument.
Be fair to at least balance this anti-Scientology resource with more
ones such as:
As Keith Relkin rightly pointed out, what counts is what the group is
doing, more than whatever out of context paragraph is being quoted by
group's enemy. To take an example from another field, the Bible said in
35:2 - "Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there
shall be to
you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work
shall be put to death."
What is the best way to assess the truth of the situation? This quote or
fact that nobody is being put to death for not respecting the sabbath?
If Mr. Tsakuda has actual examples of homophobic incidents on the part
Church of Scientology, maybe his time would be better spent documenting
If all he has are unsubstantiated allegations, anti-cult cliches, and
context quotes, his work may may find a better place on the xenu.net
mentioned above rather than in a magazine which, I suppose, is set out,
in part, to defend homosexual rights.
Below is a post to the alt.religion.scientology newsgroup made by a Scientology critic. It
describes a Scientology stand during the 2001 San Francisco Gay Pride
Parade - confirming Keith Relkin's affirmation that there are gay
Scientologists activists in this area. You have to take into account
that the event is reported through the critics' bias and therefore
strongly distorted. Note how the critic refers to Scientologists as
"clams", to L. Ron Hubbard as
the "fat dead white guy", and to his writing as
While walking along the sidewalk at the SF Gay Pride Parade this
Sunday, I was surprised, given the Keystone Kult's views on
homosexuality ("out-2D" and all), to find a couple of body
with E-meter, OCA test, and paperback Hubspew (including
"Dianetiki" in Russian).
Since we were at Pride and all, I started out asking the (young and
rather cute) body router whether Scientology held any doctrines about
the acceptability of homosexuality. (My quotes are paraphrases; I
wasn't expecting to run into a clambed and didn't have my Gandhi Tech
surveillance devices with me.)
He weaseled and waffled and finally admitted that church doctrine
considered homosexuality "less good" because it doesn't
children. Where is the next generation going to come from if
everybody is off having non-procreative sex? (like that's going to
I tried the cans for the first time. He ran through a list of a few
"problem areas" and asked me to "think hard about each
answering". I found that I could control the needle on the meter
easily (and invisibly, as far as I could tell) by gently adjusting the
pressure with which I held the cans. I triggered "reads" on
(which I figured would push some of his clam buttons), career, and
Then we went over the results. When he asked me about
mentioned that a friend of mine was having legal troubles, in fact
he's a political refugee. When I mentioned that his name was Keith
Henson, clamboy said "I think I've heard of him". At that
pretty much just wandered away.
Looking forward to my first picket on July 7th...
Love and encouragement,
The German Paymaster
(well, half-German... on my father's side)
"The purpose of the lawsuit is to harass and discourage
rather than win." -- some fat dead white guy
AAAARRRRhhhhhh! They were at the Pride Parade? My cod! I've never seen
'em at the one down here. This year I'll give away the rest of the
"Scientology Hates Gays but Loves their Money" fliers at the
and I gave out 500 of them two years ago with the come-on line,
out how Scientology abuses the gay community!"
Bunker, we're still waiting for that XenuTV...
http://www.geocities.com/bwarr_2000/ mirror site
"Every week, every month, every year, every decade and now
every century, Scientology does weird and stupid things
to damage its own reputation."
"Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross,
insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
-ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"