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>[William Barwell]
>No. I am the one who started this clam
business. I used clam because of the ludicrous and absolutely hilarious
claims Hubbard made in a book "The History of Man" he wrote in
1952.
>These ludirous and bizarre claims are
but a taste of what Scientology really teaches.
[Blackhawck]
So, you took a piece of Scientology that seemed strange and
used it to attack the religion. Fine. But let's not forget that
Christianity has just as many aspects of it which are subject to the
same ridiculed using your criteria.
In the creation theory involving Adam and Eve, Eve was
created by using one of Adam's ribs. So, "God", the one who
created everything needed a few spare parts to create the female gender.
Using the criteria that you applied to Scientology, the only fair term
then for Christians are "Spare Ribs" or more cryptically just
"Ribs". I will not complain against the use of
"Clam" if you agree to use the term "Rib" to
describe Christians.
Likewise, it would only be fair to call Mormons
"Salimanders" after the famous "Salimander
Document".
There are certainly other religions that have
"strange" aspects, I will do some research and create a post
at a later date.
The point is: every religion, those you like and those you
hate, have aspects that can be ridiculed.
>Yet, Hubbard pompously claims that
Scientology is completely proven, a milestone comparable to the
invention of the wheel, the invention of fire, the only workable science
of the mind, a science as hard and proven as chemistry or physics. In
HoM he even goes so far as to claim his hilarous babblings
"prove" the mere theories of Charles Darwin!
The Theory of Evolution is pretty much proven without his
help. From the Austriopithicus to the generic data concerning the Bonobo
and traits in fetal development, I doubt Darwin needs LRH's help.
>His books and Scientology propaganda
are filled with his bloviations and expansive claims for his cult and
its bizarre claims. It must be true, otherwise it wouldn't be called
"scientology", eh wot?
I myself think that they should have chosen a different name.
But, from a techical point of view, it translates to "Study of
Life", which is okay, I guess.
>Much of his claims are so ludicrous, so
stupid, so foolish, that the cult is forced to keep them secret or
people would never, ever join in any circumstances. They have sued
numerous times in the past to keep this crap secret.
I posted to this thread at another time about whether the
Catholic Church has ancient writings from when this religion was formed
that are archived and subject to public review. I think it is very
likely.
>Just two years ago they sued the
Washington Post for daring to print the details on the creation 75
million years ago by evil outer space dictator Xenu of disembodied dead
alien soul parasites called BTs, body thetans AKA, space cooties.
Why is Xenu any more silly than some depictions of the
"Devil"?
>Why did I use the ludicrous clam
stories to as a name for Scientologists? As a warning of the secret
teachings. If the whole world started calling Scientologists
"clams", sooner or later, almost anybody interested in their
cult due to their propaganda efforts would be forced to consider the
portentious question, "why do people call Scientologists
clams?".
I fear that the goal of creating this term may have little to
no effect. I can imagine that following discussion:
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Young Scn: |
Why do those who
hate us call us "clams"? |
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Senior Scn: |
They read it from a document called
the "History of Man". They see a reference that
states humanity has engrams from clams. |
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Young Scn: |
The sea-creature? |
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Senior Scn: |
No, no no. "Clam" also means one
without the ability to talk. Or in the latin, one who is
feeble, primative and have no way to express themselves(1). |
In other words, the term "clam" can be explained
away with little to no effort. However, every instance I have seen it
used on a.r.s. it have been used out of hate - in conjuction with
attacks on intelligence and morality.
Though I can only imagine you created the term without hate,
many common terms to belittle a group have "innocent" roots as
well. The term "Wop" and "Kike" both come from all
the paperwork that was done at Ellis Island. Immigrants from Italy were
often without proper documents and were refered to as "Without
Papers" - hence "Wop". On immigration papers, the Ellis
Island staff would also put a symbol for the person's religion: A cross
for a Christian, and a circle (or what was called a Kikecle) on a Jews.
>And if asked, the question would be
answered by pointing out the long list of oncredibly stupid claims about
clams, space cooties, Xenu, Fac One Bap! Bap! Bap! implant stations
under the pyranees mountains, gorrilla goals, and a long, long litany of
Hubbard silliness,
You are expressing hatred towards the religion, not their
behavior.
>including Hubbard's habit of lying and
the cult's attempt to keep these ludicrous beliefs hidden from newbies
and the general public until you are brainwashed enough to believe all
of this crap and pay $$$$$ and possibly your life to be taught this
expensive swill, brought out in dribs and drabs as you payed thousands
for the privledge.
Early Christians required 10% of their property to be given
the Church. Modern Evangelicalists ask for much more. Someone I knew in
high school was ruined by the Evangelicalists.
>The clam bit is not bigotry, but a
lever, a tool, to fight Scientology's lies, deceits and propaganda which
starts
Maybe not when you coined it, but not it has a life of its
own.
>with their very name, Scientology,
which implies, science, knowledge, evidence, all utterly absent from
Scientology.
You should take some latin courses.
>It is a name designed to get people to
ask questions, to make it hard for the cult to lie to people, mislead
them, trick them. I started this with these cold blooded and specific
reasons in mind. Not merely to make fun of them, cause people to hate
them, or as empty, mindless bigotry.
I commend you for that. But unfortunately, it is in this
newsgroup that a new term of bigotry has been born.
-Blackhawck
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